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E161 – Dr. Marilyn Helms and Dr. Deborah Arfken’s Morning Cups

Dr. Marilyn Helms and Dr. Deborah Arfken are two long-time educators whose careers were shaped as much by chance as by choice. 

In this episode, Marilyn and Deborah share how they were both thrown into teaching careers, how a chance meeting on university committees in the late ’80s turned into a long-running research partnership, and why it’s “publish or perish” in the academic world.

Dr. Deborah Arfken is the Professor Emerita of Political Science and Public Service at

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My Morning Cup is hosted by Mike Costa of Costa Media Advisors and produced by SpeakEasy Productions

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